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the scientific miracles of the quran(the book of GOD)

sousou88

sousou88

Algeria

PREGNANCY AND BIRTH Curse man for his ingratitude! From what thing did He create him? From a drop of sperm He created him and proportioned him. Then He eases the way for him. (Qur'an, 80:17-20) The foetus is fully formed at the end of the sixth month. The womb then enters the incubation period. All the baby's bodily organs and systems develop fully during that time, and the womb accelerates this growth by providing nourishment for the foetus. This period continues until the baby emerges from the mother's womb. The birth canal is normally very narrow and it is difficult for the foetus to pass through it. During birth, however, a number of physiological changes take place in the mother's body. These changes allow the foetus to move easily through the birth canal. Some of these changes include: the expansion of the joints in the pelvic bones in order to widen the birth canal, the relaxation of the muscles to further widen the canal and the lubrication of the canal with amniotic fluid.92 These pre-birth changes are described in one scientific source in these terms: As birth approaches, the amniotic fluid embarks on those activities that will be necessary to facilitate that birth. This fluid comprises sacs, which will enlarge the mouth of the womb, thus allowing the womb to assume the dimensions to allow the baby to pass. These sacs also prevent the foetus from being crushed in the womb during birth. Furthermore, when the sacs burst and release their fluid at the commencement of birth, the path to be taken by the foetus is both lubricated and sterilised. In this way, birth takes place easier and in a manner naturally free of germs.93 This series of occurrences is openly indicated in the verse of the Qur'an, "Then He eases the way for him." (Qur'an, 80:20) However, it has been possible today to determine these physiological changes-which Allah informed us of 1,400 years ago-only with the use of a number of technological devices.

09:52 AM Nov 03 2008 |

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sousou88

sousou88

Algeria

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10:03 AM Nov 03 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

PREGNANCY AND BIRTH Curse man for his ingratitude! From what thing did He create him? From a drop of sperm He created him and proportioned him. Then He eases the way for him.

 

Doesn't the Q'uran also say, at different points, that man was created from CLAY, from WATER, from DUST , from congealed BLOOD, and from NOTHING?

07:38 PM Nov 03 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

thanks for the excellent rebutall, levicantu. Very good information as I had not seen this particular "miracle" before. 

 

 "The he eases the way for him"    7 words and as levicantu mentioned, quite vague….

 

but you interpret is as a 250 word explanation of the birth process. 

 

Honestly, I am sometimes confused by religious apologists who try so so hard to "prove" that THEIR beliefs, THEIR book, etc is true. Isn't it enough to just have faith?

 

Faith, to me, is belief in something. Period. No evidence is required to have faith. If you truly BELIEVE, will what you claim to be scientific evidence really make that faith stronger? Will weak representations of "evidence" really convince the non-beleiver or is the real goal to convince those who are weak of faith?

11:59 PM Nov 03 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

all muslims knew that all before 1400 years  what the science today knows

 

Memo, can you please show me in the Q'uran the part where it tells us about the decay of W and Z bosons, the structure of DNA, an explanation of Avogadro's law, or even the photoelectric effect.

 

Presumably, since the Q'uran contains what science will know in the future as well, you can tell us what the cure for AIDS will be or if faster than light travel is possible (and if so, how)

02:20 AM Nov 04 2008 |

M_honor

M_honor

Lebanon

Memo, can you please show me in the Q'uran the part where it tells us about the decay of W and Z bosons, the structure of DNA, an explanation of Avogadro's law, or even the photoelectric effect

 gikisseberth, can you imagine what was going to happen if Muhammed PBUH told like this information for illiterate people who was made their idiol from dates then when they been hungry they ate him?!! their brains weren't like our brains nowadays!

What are your thoughts on the above passage?  Why are the Islamic scholars like Al-Biruni,  Mahmud Shaltut, and Sayyid Qutb wrong?

Levi i am not free nowadays to have an argument with you. but i wonder if there are a muslim scholar who still lived nowadays not died before hundreds of years and agree with this talk.

 

 

10:07 AM Nov 04 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

M Honor: apparently, Allah found a way to tell his people about the formation of the universe, about human embryonic development or many other advanced things. Allah is all powerful, so I hope you are not saying it is beyond his capabilities. 

 

Although I don't share your rather dim view of 7th century Arabic intellects (they certainly were not illiterate or stupid) I understand that maybe Allah would want to use more simplistic language, like describing the human birth process as "Then he eases the way for him."

 

So, if, as Memo says, we can find all modern scientific knowledge in the Q'uran, those things should be there, even if the language is more suitable for illiterate date-worshiping imbeciles.

 

Or, do you disagree with Memo? Is modern scientific information NOT to be found in the Q'uran? 

11:08 AM Nov 04 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

Levicantu again carries the water on this one  :)

 

It's obvious that those scholars you quote (old and new) recognize that this particular argument is a weak one at best and leave it open to serious refutation or dismissal.

 

I think again that the reason this apologetic is popular is because the average person who uses it doesn't really understand too much of science (although not to the level that M Honor describes early converts) and it perhaps serves to bolster a level of faith that is not as strong as it could be.

 

11:21 AM Nov 04 2008 |

lilimira

lilimira

Algeria

the quran never says that man was created from congealed blood!it's says from 'something that attach'(if my translation is good) and some translations of the quran are not accurate especially in verses that treats scientific matters.

quran is not a book of science,but it sent to humans and talk about everything around them.quran doesn't have all what humans needs,it just open the way to researches and

humans' efforts.muslims should understand that first,because others understood it without having a holy book.they understood that they should work hard to have heaven on earth.

03:32 PM Nov 04 2008 |

javamanju

javamanju

India

ha, but when Cure for AIDS is discovered,some Muslims will jump around saying it was already there in Quran, Christians in Bible etc etc…..

When do people realise that Quran, Bible, Gita are not "Books of Science" , They are books of religion, It is all about faith. 

There is no right or wrong path to god, It is for each individual to decide on the path.

A Quote for the Gita-

"Whenever Dharma (spiritual truth) declines and the purpose of life is forgotten, I (God) manifest myself on earth. I am born in every age to protect the good, to destroy evil, and to re-establish Dharma"

04:03 PM Nov 04 2008 |

gkisseberth

Germany

the quran never says that man was created from congealed blood!it's says from 'something that attach'(if my translation is good) and some translations of the quran are not accurate especially in verses that treats scientific matters.

 

lilmira, I agree that the Q'uran is not a book of science, and the fact that different translations exist and that even the original Arabic can be interpreted differently leaves is open for many people to make wild claims about its scientific accuracy. 

 

I have, however, seen this translated (I think it´s from Sura 96) as saying that man was created from a lump of congealed blood. My poiint though, is that there are a number of different explanations in the Q'uran about what man was created from.

04:32 PM Nov 04 2008 |