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Why you think Muhammed is Fake Prophet?

l.pharaoh

l.pharaoh

Egypt

Why you think Muhammed is Fake Prophet?

If you interesting, you must ask About him

Why you Not believe him ?

01:26 PM Jun 24 2009 |

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lhohol

Sweden

All religions is made by man. Everything is just stories. Muhammed is made up, just like Harry Potter and Micky mouse. That is what i think.

He can very well had lived, but then he was just a regular person.

03:42 PM Jun 24 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

-Mohammed lived as a merchant among Christians and Jews, where he probably got a lot of his ideas from. Consequently Islam has elements of Christianity, Judaism and native Arab spirituality (things like the idea of 'Jinns')

 

-Mohammed apparently received the Koran while he was in a cave, where he was visited in a dream by the Angel Gabriel who told him to start a new religion for mankind. I wonder what would happen if I tried doing that.

-Mohammed apparently received the Koran in 'several revelations'. To me this is a nice way of saying that he made it up as he went along.

-Mohammed was unanimously rejected by both groups.

-Mohammed waged wars against his enemies and his new religion was primarily spread that way.

 

According to Jewish views, someone who comes and says that the Torah is no longer valid, automatically qualifies as a false prophet, because the Torah for Jews is binding for all time.

 

These are the reasons I can think of, though there are many many more. The bottom line is. Mohammed plays no role in my religion, nor in Christianity. Any more than Bahallul or Buddha plays a role in Islam.

04:19 PM Jun 24 2009 |

gkisseberth

Germany

I don't believe there are any "prophets".

Neither Mohammed, nor anyone else, has spoken to any god, angel or other imginary creature. 

 

 

05:15 PM Jun 24 2009 |

ambitious rody

Egypt

i think it will be better if we don't open that subject especially regarding our prophet mouhammed (peace be upon him)

we will see some replies that provoke us and motivate our jealousy toward our religion

what are your opinions??

 

07:30 PM Jun 24 2009 |

gkisseberth

Germany

The Gospel of Barnabas is not part of the King James version (nor any christian version) of the Bible.

 

and it would pretty easy for a manuscript to mention Muhammed when it was written hundreds of years after he lived. 

05:37 AM Jun 25 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

If it were obvious that Mohammed were a prophet, all of the other Abrahamic religions would have converted to Islam.

 

So far the only proof you're giving us to go by is that you say he is. 

06:00 AM Jun 25 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

Oh? Where?

06:05 AM Jun 25 2009 |

gkisseberth

Germany

The Gospel of Barnabas is not part of the King James version (nor any christian version) of the Bible.

So, What is it then?

 

 

 

probably something written in the 16th century (in Spain or Italy) attempting to somehow synthesize Muslim and christian teachings and/or provide additional "evidence" of Muhammed being mentioned in Christian holy texts.

 

of course I think this gospel is about as divinely inspired as the others (in other words, not at all) 

06:25 AM Jun 25 2009 |

Jack_240

Jack_240

Saudi Arabia

Dude, why did u post such a topic?? i dun't wanna say something bad to u. i mean c'mon that would hurt ur feelings. 

it's a fucked-up thread "with all due respect to every religion" but this topic has been talked about more than millions times

even Islam itself has different beliefs. so why don't we solve our Islam's problems then we go to non-muslims and argue with them?? 

ur just making urselves look bad. 

06:45 AM Jun 25 2009 |

fabs1

fabs1

United Kingdom

 I've decided to look up some of this 'proof'.

 

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

"And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not harken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him."

 

The passage refers to Moses and future prophets. Not necessarily to Mohammed or any other specific person.

Indeed many prophets and their writings came after Moses. Isaiah, Daniel, Obadiah, Ruth, Jeremiah etc etc. Jewish tradition lists 48 prophets (7 prophetesses). 

 

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is ogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem."
  Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

The translation I have here is as follows (Tanakh, Stone Edition, ShirHa Shirim:

The words of his palate are sweet and He is all delight. This is my Beloved and this is my Friend, O nations destined to ascend to Jerusalem.

 

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

This is the Arabic translation, not Hebrew.

The plural in the original Hebrew text ('marchmadim'), which the article claims is a respect form for Muhammed, is just a grammatical form of saying 'he is all delight(s)'.  Indeed, if its in its original language, instead of an Arabic translation like above, the word doesn't look like 'Mohammed' at all.

 

First of all, I find it funny that a Muslim is quoting the Song of Songs. They're generally the first to criticize it as being pornographic and undivine.

Second of all: This passage according to the scholars, is an allegory of Israel and Gd. The friend and beloved is Gd and the Torah.

The word that the article is pointing out is 'marchmadim' meaning 'delight'. Personally, if you think that the similarity of words is enough to prove anything. Sure. Knock yourself out. People must have been scanning eveywhere and this is the best they could come up with to 'prove' that Mohammed is mentioned in the Tanakh. Weak, to say the least.

This is all taken from the original Hebrew.

 

It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12:

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

 

It probably helps to look at the rest of the passage, which is clearly an allegory for the way prophesy is transmitted, not a literal description of what is going to happen:

'To you all the true prophecy is like the words of a sealed document, which one gives to a literate person, saying, 'Please read this', and he says, 'I cannot, for it is sealed'. Then the document is given to an illiterate person, saying ' Please read this'. and he says 'I am not literate'. (Isaiah 29:11-12)

 

The other thing one has to ask is: If the Muslims believe that the holy books are corrupted, how is it that somehow, these tiny details inside these 'corrupted' books are apparently proof of Mohammed?

And if these parts were uncorrupted, telling of his coming, why would he have needed to come to clarify anything at all?

 

06:46 AM Jun 25 2009 |