"Know Your Palestine" Quiz , open to all the international community.

If you meant this exactly ""culturally valued knowledge communicated by a range of non-specialist media."", then I no longer know exactly what you mean. The only thing that I can think of that might fit that definition would be our overall values, but they mean different things to different people and are being continually eroded. 

Now I understand what you mean. When you linked to the general knowledge I thought you were showing an example of "general". I did get stuck on the word "culture".

Yes, very low. Hillariously so. There are game shows here about it. The "right" answer isn't always the correct answer, it's the answer that most of the audience gave.  A tv show did a good skit about it called "Common Knowledge". Generally, in polls conducted to show us we haven't changed, most American's can't name our own Vice President, Chief Justice, Speaker of the House, or Majority Whip. Most don't know our own country well, many can't name all of our states and their capitols.

It's a big place, there are still many millions of well-educated brilliant people. Normally the things the common person doesn't know, aren't important to daily life.

It's no big deal.

No you didn't confuse me, it is you who aren't understanding me. I am the one saying there is no American "culture generale". That is exactly what I am saying.

There are immigrant cultures here maintained by immigrants, and the cultures of the native peoples, there are also regional cultures here, but the only uniquely American culture is Black American Culture.

Literally, for the reasons I listed, there is no General American Culture. We call it "the American Experience". We are too young to have had enough time to establish enough common experiences for all who live here. I suspect what you think is General American Culture is actually either "Pop Culture" or the culture of a smaller part of the population making headlines.

So much for not posting more until you caught up!

Wow, give me time to read it. As I glanced over though, two things:

Jerusalem was a Jewish city in Roman times, you said "and change it to a jewish city.", perhaps you meant "and change it back to a Jewish city".

I agree you didn't say 'no culture', you said 'little culture'. I said 'no culture'. We are a young nation, hardly old enough to develop actual traditions that reflect all of us. Especially since new groups continue to arrive.

From the very beginning, Africans were brought against their will to this land. The closest thing there might be to an actual "American Culture" is Black American Culture. They are one of the few groups who share a common experience, have been here 500 years, had no major waves of subsequent immigration from Africa before WWII, and were isolated by the racism of this society. They have a distinctive and rich culture in addition to the common American experience we all share.  I added this in edit because it deserves to be mentioned apart from the rest.

This nation has grown first by expansion and then by repeated waves of immigrants. What might have been an "English Culture", absorbed French, Spanish, and Dutch colonial populations, as well as overrunning the native population, and then adopted cultural elements from almost every culture on earth through immigration.  What might be termed "American Culture" changes with each generation.

We adapt fast, it's one of our strengths.

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I'd like to read that link.

Thanks for sending this. At first I thought you were describing the meaning of the word, I realize that your Umma is suffering like the Church did in it's turn.

The word Nation means exactly like Algeria etc. Umma seems more from what you've said. 

I don't think there is a word in English that fits exactly. If you use the word though, it will become part of our language in time.

There are a lot of non-English words in American English, you only have to use them when appropriate and tell us what they mean for us to adopt them.

It is sad to read that it happened but I am happy to read that Muslims and Christians can work together to restore him. I believe that is Godly behavior. Lifting, not destroying.

I agree also that those who did it, did so to create hate. But that's how they derail peace plans too, by random murderous attacks using "Islam" as their excuse.

4. You ARE home.  You want to go where you've never lived. It seems the only "right" you claim is the complete distruction of Isreal.

Death is a power none can stand against. You chose to fight, you chose to try nothing else. You say it's something you cannot do due to your religion. India, South Africa, even the American Blacks, they all got their "rights" without violence. Try it instead of excuses.

Gandhi, Mandela, King. Add one of your own names to the list.

It is you who insist that two words in different languages mean the same thing. They do not. Your insistence doesn't change that.

A nation is a political division, words like Umma and Christendom describe religious divisions, A tribe is a racial division. If the Umma was only for Arabs or Navaho or Igbo, it would be a tribe. Sorry but true. You are misusing English. A nation isn't made up of any area ruled by your religion. There's a reason there's no "Umma" representative in the UN. But I too give up. Nothing ever convinces.

According to this site: www.islamic-relief.com they help in the following countries, all of which are Islamic or areas of Islamic expansion. They may have offices with us, but they work for you.

• Afghanistan
• Albania
• Bangladesh
• Bosnia and Herzegovina
• Chad
• China
• Egypt
• Ethiopia
• India
• Indonesia
• Iraq
• Jordan
• Kenya
• Kosova
• Lebanon
• Malawi
• Mali
• Niger
• Pakistan
• Palestinian territories
• Russian Federation (Chechnya)
• Somalia
• South Africa
• Sri Lanka
• Sudan
• Syrian Arab Republic
• Yemen

www.irusa.org/donations lists the same country AND support Hamas.

www.islamichelp.org.uk/aboutus: Seem to help but where? And who? They don't list like the other two do or I couldn't find it on their cite.

islam.about.com/od/activism/tp/charities.htm lists a number of charities that work either only in Muslim nations or list Muslim nations as places they principly work. Yes,  those groups are here too, in the Muslim areas helping those who live there. Some of the list doesn't mention any religious affiliation.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Relief_USA Finally, Islamic Relief USA seems to be exactly what I was asking about. Good example. Thank you. I only asked for one and this one will do. Oh wait, according to their actual website, they actually work in the same nations as the other website and again, are sponsors of Hamas. They sure look good on Wiki though.

At least I try to learn about your places. Did you ever figure out which party runs the USA? You laughed at me for not knowing that about Palestine, even though Palestine is so small the whole place is smaller geographically and populations, than many US cities. Can you name the ruling party of LA? NYNY? Even KCMO (which is about 2 1/2 times larger than you said Palestine is, though mostly farmland)? Your pretty free to accuse me of ingorance about your but yours surely equals mine about me.

You started bringing up our religions, not me. Do you mean I should provide you an example of what I say about Jesus from the Koran? Why on earth would I quote from that when I can quote directly from the wholy inspired word of God, the Bible?

Mondria?

english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/12/07/Minister-Mandela-received-his-first-military-training-in-Algeria.html

Um really? Yes, he did receive training among you. And he saw how stupid and fruitless military style resistence was. Black South Africans died a lot when violence was their path, they won a nation when they acted like adults. Now they live in peace and prosperity. Nelson trained in Algeria 1961. He has since freed his nation and restored his people. How about your violent ways, aside from shrinking Palestine, what have you accomplished with all the killing?

"your rights are taken and not given"  then perhaps the word "rights" is different too, you are endowed by your Creator by your inalienable rights. They cannot be given, you've had them from birth, they can only be denied to you. Other, lesser "rights" are political concessions, given by a government to a people to assuage them. You refuse to be assuaged by anything except Isreals destruction. That's not much of a choice for them.

I understand. Muslims can't rebuild churches they destroy. They can only pretend they didn't benefit from the burning. And they blame God for everything. God's gift of Palestine justifies perpetual warfare, Gods gift to your Prophet justifies you ignoring the fact that those to whom Muslims have mistaught Islam, some few of them but them nonetheless, to create murdering arsonist zealots for Islam who act contrary dang near everything God taught in the Bible OR the Torah.

If such things are not taught in the Koran, when does Islam care about THAT kind of blasphemy by it's own members? They kill over cartoons, surely defiling the teachings of Islam is worse. They keep doing it. The only other explanation must be that they actually aren't violating the teachings of Islam, just the plan of Islam for world conquest.

If the conquest was under God, my knees would hit the floor hard, but you haven't one ruler in your own lands, there is no reason to think the world would unite under Islam, only join you in sectional warring. Like was in Christendom centuries ago. Fight Satan, not us.

Your excuse for not rebuilding churches is a false reason, Muslim worshipers had no trouble burning them in your name, it's just not taking responsibility for their actions. Yet you expect us to allow Sharia to expand.  According to you, Christians cannot expect Islamic justice if the excuse for the injustice is 'Islam'. By your words you unneccesarily become the enemy of justice. How can I think anything except Sharia means convert or become subhuman?

"If one of us (muslims) commit a crime against other believers he will be punished, if he kill he will be killed, Islam brought justice however the person is."

I get it. Non-believers are unworthy of justice. Crimes against believers are punished. Crimes against Christians are the Christians fault for not converting. So burn us or murder us, it's not your problem if your religion was the excuse?

"if there are few muslims celeberating your death that is evil, they are very few. you said they are so many, please bring evidence otherwise you transfer only lies."

No. Even a 15 year old can find footage online of the crowds cheering. There are plenty of easily found newclips online of HUGE crowds, at least one was hundreds of thousands of people, with signs in English so we can read them, in places like Palestine and Egypt, who were just beside themselves with joy at the "Islamic" victory of 9/11.

www.unicef.org/infobycountry/media_46118.html- UNICEF is part of the UN, a western creation that now includes the world, they are who created Isreal. Every nation is part of UNICEF, what does that have to do with any ministry of Islam?

Sorry

Hamid, check it out I found one!

"The masked men came in the night, ripped off the front door and set the bookstore on fire. They were out to punish the owner, an elderly priest, after false rumors that he had written an anti-Islamic tract." ....

"But the blaze in the northern city of Tripoli also moved many residents, Muslims and Christians alike, to offer to help repair the 40-year-old shop, showing how some Lebanese are rising up in protest."

http://news.yahoo.com/books-latest-victim-lebanon-39-violence-074024904.html

would the English equivalent of "Umma" actually be "Christendom"? (Christian lands)

To me, it fits what you said Umma means better than "nation"