Women in the West and in Qur'anic civilization

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Women's liberation is a much discussed subject, can you compare the attitudes of materialist Western civilization and Qur'anic civilization towards women and demonstrate where true freedom for women lies?

It may clear from the descriptions in the first and second sections above that the aim of materialist Western civilization is not to fulfil the needs of human nature, but rather to exploit that nature in whatever ways it can in order to perpetuate itself despite its rotten foundations. The position of women in the West is truly grievous. Their true nature and role in the family and home are being systematically destroyed. They are the main sacrificial victims to the voracious idol of the consumer society.
The system demands that their bodies are exploited for advertising purposes. And besides exciting the greed and lust of others, they themselves are under constant presssure to spend and acquire ever more in the way of possessions and luxuries for the home. The inducement of fashion is utilized to astonishing degrees in the West, so that women are encouraged not only to buy more and more in the way of clothes and to follow fashions in make-up and the like, but also to change all the furnishings in their homes, down to even their bathrooms, every year or two. Of course, all this means that they have to abandon their homes and families and go out to work.
These developments are portrayed as progress and liberation for women, as the gaining of equal opportunities with men in the field of work and the professions. The false concept of equality is taken as the aim.  Totally contrary to human nature, women are encouraged to seek equality with men in every field, from work to the home. But in fact this unachievable aim is cynically put forward to deceive unfortunate women and to cloak the ugly reality of the situation.
While feminists in the West have reacted strongly against the exploitation of women in maintaining the capitalist system, in fact, they support many of these developments since they encourage the 'liberation' of women from the 'slavery' of their role in the home and family. 'Sex roles' being an artificial device engineered to perpetuate that 'slavery'. However, they themselves are calling women not to freedom but to even greater slavery. For what they are calling them to is the rejection of their own natures for the sake of some ill-defined 'rights' that consist of absolute freedom to follow their own whims and what they imagine to be their own interests unrestricted by the rights of others. How can women stripping themselves of their womanhood be seen as freedom? They are making a very bad bargain, their compassionate natures and exalted position in the scheme of things in return for total enslavement to their own individual whims and desires.
How different is the attitude of Qur'anic civilization towards women! The mercy that is Islam recognizes the manner in which they have been created and ensures through Islamic dress and other requirements that they are able to carry out their duties with their children and in the home protected and in perfect dignity.
Islamic dress and the 'position of women' generally in Islam are much misunderstood in the West, but as the many thousands of women brought up in Western society testify, Islamic dress is in complete accord with their natures and gives them the protection and ease of mind that that nature requires. And they find that indeed 'the woman's place is in the home,' that it is not a prison-sentence but on the contrary is a most gratifying duty and service of the greatest responsibility since it entails the bringing-up of thesucceeding generation. Islamic dress is a safeguard for this vitally important role, indicating to its importance and protecting women from any kind of indignity and exploitation.
The contradictory position of feminists is very apparent here, for they vigorously oppose the exploitation of the female body for advertising and other purposes while at the same time seeking 'freedom' or to get rid of any sort of restriction on women's dress and behaviour. However, what becomes apparent to the many 'new' Muslim women is that to expose their bodies at all to men outside their families is to both exploit themselves and to be exploited. To act as a means of exciting the lust, desire, and greed of strangers is to be exploited and for women to take pleasure in thus doing is to exploit and to degrade themselves. It is not freedom but once again to enslave themselves to their own individual desires and the desires of others.
What is freedom for women, then? Freedom for women lies in recognizing their true nature, in recognizing what teaches them what that nature is and  then _ protects   and   safeguards   it.   God

Almighty's final revealed religion of Islam does this in the most perfect form. And what does that mean? It in fact means abandoning their own desires and recognizing that they are not beings with 'rights', but creatures with duties, like all the beings in the universe, and that happiness and freedom are only to be found in the performance of those duties.
And if they are creatures with duties, then that happiness and freedom will increase in proportion to their learning to know the Giver of those important and pleasurable duties, the Single All-Wise and Compassionate Creator. For the more they learn about the Giver of the duties, the more they will learn what the duties truly consist of. The more they can abandon their own wishes and desires the more they may draw closer to conforming to the will and wisdom of the One Who plans and runs the whole universe, which are so apparent from its order, balance and harmony. This is where true freedom lies. In belief and in submission to a Single All-Wise and Compassionate God Who thus orders and administers the whole universe as a unified whole and employs all the creatures in it according to His absolute wisdom. Freedom lies in Islam, therefore, which is that belief and which protects and safeguards those who recognize and adhere to it.

be honest,  have you readen the text? or the answer of fabs?

if yes, please tell me what is right and i will explain you it is wrong. I just dont want to give answer to fabs

It was pretty hard going against Muslim women in my previous posts; this time it will be pretty harder going against machismos..

Memothehun..

I have read the text and have read it well.

The article which Memothehun JUST READ is just one of the many attempts to curtail women empowerment in the guise of comparative analyses between Western  and Muslim women.. ("Muslim women, don't be jealous and envious with Weternized women; they are abused and exploited.. You are protected and cared..")

The line between Western and Muslim women has long been drawn.. (Since I became active in Ebaby fora, I already settled with the fact that liberated women like me are regarded as immodest and the only dignified women are Muslim women at least to the active Muslim EBaby members..) Dwelling on that means recycling the issue over and over again.. Let us refrain from asking ourselves the question, "How does religion tames a woman?" Let us get away from religion this time and let us talk about you (men) and we (women)..

So, we women are exploited? (By who?)

We women are victims of consumerism? (Are you not too?)

Our happiness must lie in our role of taking care of you, our children and the house.. (Where must your happiness lie?)

Women must not forget they will always be under men for God created woman out of the man's rib (according to the Bible).. She will always be a part of his body and not a separate entity.. ONLY HIM WILL DICTATE WHAT IS RIGHT FOR HER AND NOW EVEN WHAT SHOULD MAKE HER HAPPY..

Djou told me before that the Triumvirate/Divine Trinity is the greatest conspiracy of all time.. I think not.. Since time immemorial men's superior placement have always been threatened by women.. Men's superiority complex is greatly and effectively reflected even in the Bible..

If we will base from every creation story, who was created first? (In the Bible, man..)

Who are the authors of the Holy Books? (Mostly men, rarely women—Only Esther, Judith and Ruth? Correct me if I am wrong..)

It is nice to note that even Mary whom Christians consider as the Mother of God did not have the priviledge to decide on her own as she spoke, "Thy will be done.." (Nevermind if the future generations will question the authenticity of Immaculate Conception..)

Just how do we perceive God? (He must be some form of a real deal energy but Bible says we are created from His image..) Every painting, photo and instantaneous imagination render or interpret Him as masculine.. Did God ever have a woman? If God were alone and a man,  He must be lonely not having woman dealing with all the problems of the universe.. If He were a man, He must be sexist too for not allowing His woman come into picture in all of the divine and superb stories about Him (Creation, for example)..

I know I delved completely away from the topic but the things I stated have clear relationship with it.. It will be irrational to rationalize God, but not attempting at least will be purely stupid..

Equality has been a question since the time the Bible was made..

guys, please read before you post any answer. and dont go away from the main topic ^^.

memo, thanks for bringing such interesting topic and i also like Moon_light's answers.

De _Carvallo..

Obviously, the topic is heading to Islam-is-the-best-religion that is why I am heading away from it..

I did not answer the post, I aired my thoughts about the general idea of EQUALITY.. Answering the post would mean that I have to go against Muslim people like you AGAIN..

To reiterate:

"I know I delved completely away from the topic but the things I stated have clear relationship with it.."

"Equality has been a question since the time the Bible was made.."

Dear Fabian,

You don’t like the topic, because it is heading to Islam, and you don’t see Islam as the best religion, I totally respect your thoughts and I don’t argue about this. But the question is do you need to change the topic because you don’t like it? What about the guy who posted it and waiting some answers! What about your friend fabs who spent more than 3 days writing the answers! I am sure he is waiting some answers too.

Take it easy, and don’t bother yourself with something you don’t like  ^_

See, even you pushed me to be out of the main topic, (just joking) 

take care

Memothehun will understand.. He is giving me the freedom anyway..

If talking about equality means completely diverting the topic, well, then I retract everything that I posted..

If you want to know the gist of my answer, please refer to my postings in Miss Secret's forum, '"Sister, Don't Sell Your Body"..

I hope everybody would do this ^^

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