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Female Circumcision in Sudan and Egypt

CaN I CrY

CaN I CrY

Turkey

Todoy i entered a semposium in an University..And I was one of teenager that talked about Human's Right.

My subject was about Iraq and USA.. So i didn't search other countries…

There was a group there, talked about Human's Right in SUDAN…(the most developing country in Africa)  (!!)

 

They talked about something that i have never heard before… It is >> Female Circumcision

When i heard them, I really felt myself too terrible and upset..

 

Owww Nothing can be worse than this… Any of human can't do it with a peacefull heart.. :( I am sitll in shock now.. :S

And i wanna share them with you..

_____

Female Circumcision in Sudan

Female circumcision—also known as female genital mutilation—is widely practiced in some parts of Sudan.Information about attitudes toward the practice, the reasons why women support it and the social and demographic predictors associated with support for it are needed for development of eradication strategies. .

 

Methods: In a survey on reproductive health, approximately 1,000 ever-married women were randomly selected in each of three areas—Haj-Yousif and Shendi in the north, where female circumcision is widely practiced, and Juba in the south, where it is relatively rare. Interviewers collected data on the prevalence of the three types of circumcision, their social and demographic correlates, women's attitudes toward the practice and their perception of their husbands' attitudes.

 

Female circumcision is not associated with any one religious group. It is practiced by Muslims, Christians, Jews and members of indigenous African religions.

Female circumcision is often performed by lay practitioners with little or no formal knowledge of human anatomy or medicine. In most cases, the operation takes place under unhygienic conditions and without anesthesia or sterile instruments.

Circumcision can have many immediate and long-term consequences. These consequences vary considerably by the type and severity of cutting, with the most serious complications associated with infibulation. The immediate consequences include difficulty in passing urine, urine retention, hemorrhage, infection, fever, stress and shock and damage to the genital organs.

Over time, circumcised women may also develop menstrual complications, vulvar abscesses, obstetric complications, urinary tract infections, chronic pelvic infection and low fertility or sterility. In addition, female circumcision, especially infibulation, may make intercourse per- functory or even painful.

Despite these grave risks, its practitioners look on it as an integral part of their cultural and ethnic identity. In societies in which few women remain uncircumcised, problems arising from female circumcision are likely to be seen as a normal part of a woman's life and may not even be associated with circumcision

 

Look http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/2707101.html for most information

 

 

 

 

11:34 AM Dec 05 2008 |

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sunay

sunay

Turkey

Can I cry,
There is a misunderstanding. We do not say against each other. Female Circumcision is an traditional custom. Its practising whatever the reason. But we say this practising is against nature of women. This should be banned. In that respect they can solve that problem of course with education. They must know why such practising of circumcision is  against nature of women and what does it cause for living of women. This needs widely education and  education doesnt work without money. Feeling is here another topic.

12:48 PM Dec 12 2008 |

CaN I CrY

CaN I CrY

Turkey

hmm no i understand what u wanted to mean.. U r right.

Anway.. The right is that they are wronge!

05:53 PM Dec 16 2008 |

shardzoo

shardzoo

Malaysia

This is really outrageous,unacceptable and there's no religion in this worlds should support this act..This is something unbelievable..sadly its happen just in a corner of our world..soo sad actually..I heard about this long ago..but i still don't believe its happened.. 

 

I somethimes ask my self.."did our head are not working properly anymore…?"I know there's a lots of rape case and childrens (girls) being the victim.And i am strongly can tell, this is actually because of the sin, the sin of an adult person.An adult person cannot stand their desire on sex and because of that this wrong custom is taking part.The reason?,because to protect the children.This is more to child abuse..How can we let our child crying because of the weakness and stupidity of an adult man…The government of the country should have a tied and straight rules about this kind of matters..But i am afraid this worlds created more bad and cruel peoples but less on good peoples….and this world is no longer a safe and better place for us to live anymore….

03:16 AM Dec 17 2008 |

tut2007

Nigeria

Now at least you can understand some of the problems africans face on a daily basis female circumcision some take the moral high ground claiming it will reduce prosmicuity but look the risk women face when they undergo this kind of inhumane act some times i wonder where these kind of practises come from like i tell people some times the design of the human body man and woman that is;  is designed to compliment one another especially when reproduction is involved so opposite sexes being sexualy aroused when they ecounter each other is only natural this is where sex educationn comes in and parental guidance let the woman no the consequences of sex that is teenage pregnancy, aids, rape . Let her also understand the consequences of promiscuity that is loss of self respect depreciated value and even the treat of physical abuse for me this makes more sense than this inhumane act and because something is tradition it does not make it right 

04:31 AM Dec 19 2008 |

sunay

sunay

Turkey

Can I Cry,

here is an article about kurdish girls in north irak which  are victims of Female Circumcision.

http://www9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp?detay=Kurt_kizlarin_sunnet_cilesi_215898_1&Newsid=215898 

03:16 PM Dec 30 2008 |

CaN I CrY

CaN I CrY

Turkey

Heyy.What did u show me Sunay?

Do you think that i support it for Kurdish girls..

 

And believe me.. it is 1.time that i heart something about female circumcision of Kurdish girls..

That is a lie.. A lie..

And i can swear with ALLah's name..

But if Iraqian kurlish do it, I can say everything to them too..it is shame for everyone.Not just for Sudans or others..

 

But this is a lie.. Kurdish ppl never do it.. I have never heard it before..

 

I am a KUrdish..  i don't know but u know very well.. So interesting….

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I just wanna say it to you..Also u r definitely an unrespectfull person.. U r %100 rude..

What r u trying to show me?? What should i see from this lie news??

What's ur problem with me,,, or my nation?

 

?

 

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I am repeating again..It is a shame of humantiy.. not of Sudans, or Kurdish, or Turkish or American…

 

It is a shame of everyone..

 

But KURDISH PPL DON'T DO IT.. THAT'S LIE.. I HAVE NEVER HEART IT ..

AND BELIEVE ME I AM SO TRUSTFULL PERSON THAT CAN CRITISE MY NATION TOO..

 

I DON'T HAVE A COMPLEX FROM MY NATION.. I AM PROUD!

04:36 PM Dec 30 2008 |

sunay

sunay

Turkey

Calm down. It was just meant as information.

04:46 PM Dec 30 2008 |

sunay

sunay

Turkey

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TUZ KHURMATU, Iraq

Sheelan Anwar Omer, a shy 7-year-old Kurdish girl, bounded into her neighbor&#39;s house with an ear-to-ear smile, looking for the party her mother had promised.

There was no celebration. Instead, a local woman quickly locked a rusty red door behind Sheelan, who looked bewildered when her mother ordered the girl to remove her underpants. Sheelan began to whimper, then tremble, while the women pushed apart her legs and a midwife raised a stainless-steel razor blade in the air. &quot;I do this in the name of Allah!&quot; she intoned.

As the midwife sliced off part of Sheelan&#39;s genitals, the girl let out a high-pitched wail heard throughout the neighborhood. As she carried the sobbing child back home, Sheelan&#39;s mother smiled with pride.

&quot;This is the practice of the Kurdish people for as long as anyone can remember,&quot; said the mother, Aisha Hameed, 30, a housewife in this ethnically mixed town about 100 miles north of Baghdad. &quot;We don&#39;t know why we do it, but we will never stop because Islam and our elders require it.&quot;

Kurdistan is the only known part of Iraq -and one of the few places in the world-where female circumcision is widespread. More than 60 percent of women in Kurdish areas of northern Iraq have been circumcised, according to a study conducted this year. In at least one Kurdish territory, 95 percent of women have undergone the practice, which human rights groups call female genital mutilation.

The practice, and the Kurdish parliament&#39;s refusal to outlaw it, highlight the plight of women in a region with a reputation for having a more progressive society than the rest of Iraq. Advocates for women point to the increasing frequency of honor killings against women and female self-immolations in Kurdistan this year as further evidence that women in the area still face significant obstacles, despite efforts to raise public awareness of circumcision and violence against women.

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&quot;When the Kurdish people were fighting for our independence, women participated as full members in the underground resistance,&quot; said Pakshan Zangana, who heads the women&#39;s committee in the Kurdish parliament. &quot;But now that we have won our freedom, the position of women has been pushed backwards and crimes against us are minimized.&quot;

Zangana has been lobbying for a law in Kurdistan, a semiautonomous region with its own government, that would impose jail terms of up to 10 years on those who carry out or facilitate female circumcision. But the legislation has been stalled in parliament for nearly a year, because of what women&#39;s advocates believe is reluctance by senior Kurdish leaders to draw international public attention to the little-noticed tradition.

The Kurdish region&#39;s minister of human rights, Yousif Mohammad Aziz, said he didn&#39;t think the issue required action by parliament. &quot;Not every small problem in the community has to have a law dealing with it,&quot; he said.

The practice of female circumcision is extremely rare in the Arab parts of Iraq, according to women&#39;s groups. They say it is not clear why the practice - common in some parts of Africa and the Middle East - became popular with Iraqi Kurds but not Iraqi Arabs.

Supporters of female circumcision said the practice, which has been a ritual in their culture for countless generations, is rooted in sayings they attribute to the prophet Muhammad, though the accuracy of those sayings is disputed by other Muslim scholars. The circumcision is performed by women on women, and men are usually not involved in the procedure. In the case of Sheelan, her mother informed her father that she was going to have the circumcision performed, but otherwise, he played no role.

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Kurds who support circumcising girls say the practice has two goals: It controls a woman&#39;s sexual desires, and it makes her spiritually clean so that others can eat the meals she prepares.

&quot;I would not eat food from the hands of someone who did not have the procedure,&quot; said Hurmet Kitab, a housewife who said she was 91 years old.

Kitab, who lives in the village of Kalar in Kurdistan&#39;s eastern Germian area, where female circumcision is prevalent, has had the procedure done on herself and all her daughters. When asked if she would have her 10-month-old granddaughter Saya circumcised, Kitab said &quot;Of course&quot; and explained that the procedure is painless.

&quot;They just cut off a little bit,&quot; she said, flicking her finger at the top part of a key, which she then dropped on the floor.

Women&#39;s rights groups in Kurdistan are working eagerly to change the perception that the procedure is harmless and that it is required under Islam. They go to villages in rural areas where the practice is most ingrained and tell women and religious leaders of the physical and psychological damage the circumcision can cause. Health experts say the procedure can result in adverse medical consequences for women, including infections, chronic pain and increased risks during childbirth.

Ghamjeen Shaker, a 13-year-old from the Kurdish capital of Irbil, said she is still traumatized from the day she was circumcised. She sits with her legs clenched together and her hands clasped tightly on her lap, as if protecting herself from another operation. Indeed, Shaker says she sometimes dreams that the midwife who circumcised her is coming back to perform the procedure again.

She was 5 when her mother sent her out to buy parsley and then locked her in the front yard of their home with six other girls. &quot;I knew something bad was going to happen, but I didn&#39;t know exactly where they were going to cut,&quot; she recalled. &quot;My family just kept saying, don&#39;t worry, this is a social custom we have been doing forever.&quot;

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&quot;They pinned me to the ground, and I just cried and cried,&quot; said Shaker, who spoke barely above a whisper. &quot;I was just so astonished. But now I realize that they want to prevent women from living their lives normally.&quot;

Her mother, Shukria Ismaeel Jarjees, a 38-year-old housewife, said she was forced by her relatives and elderly women in the community to have her daughter circumcised. &quot;I made a huge mistake, and now my daughter is always complaining of pain in her pelvis,&quot; Jarjees said. Her eyes began to fill with tears. &quot;I now advise my daughters to never circumcise their children.&quot;

Shaker hopes to become a social worker focusing on women&#39;s issues, in particular other girls traumatized by female circumcision.

&quot;I want to make sure the world understands they cannot silence girls like this,&quot; she said.

Susan Faqi Rasheed, president of the Irbil branch of the Kurdistan Women&#39;s Union, said that even in the cosmopolitan capital, as many as a third of young girls are circumcised. &quot;When the Kurds hold on to something, they hold on to it strongly,&quot; she said. &quot;So now they hold to Islam more than the Arabs.&quot;

One of the religious leaders who have been less vocal in demanding female circumcisions is Hama Ameen Abdul Kader Hussein, preacher at the Grand Mosque of Kalar and head of the clergymen&#39;s union in Germian. Previously, he preached that female circumcision was required. Now he says it is optional, which Hussein believes has caused the area&#39;s rate of female circumcision to drop from 100 percent to about 50 percent.

&quot;If there is any harm in this exercise,&quot; he said, &quot;we should not do it.&quot;

Despite the outreach efforts, a study of women in more than 300 Kurdish villages by WADI, a German nongovernmental group that advocates against female circumcision, found that 62 percent underwent the procedure.

In Tuz Khurmatu, the most famous practitioner of female circumcision is Maharoub Juwad Nawchas, a 40-year-old midwife with traditional Kurdish tattoos covering her chin. She learned from her mother, who used to perform the procedure for free, though Nawchas now charges 4,000 Iraqi dinars, or just under $3.50, because her husband is disabled and can&#39;t work. She has circumcised about 30 girls a year for the past two decades.

On the day she circumcised Sheelan, the midwife began the ritual by laying down an empty white potato sack to serve as her working area. AK-47 assault rifles hung from the wall of the dingy concrete house, and watermelons rested below.

When Sheelan entered the room, her mother, Nawchas and a local woman placed the girl on a tiny wooden stool the size of a brick. The midwife applied yellow antiseptic to her pelvic area and injected her with lignocaine, an anesthetic. Little children peeked through the window to see what the noise was about.

&quot;It&#39;s all right, it&#39;s all right,&quot; Sheelan&#39;s mother whispered, as the girl screamed so loudly her face turned red. She tried to bunch up her skirt over her pelvis and shield the area with her hand, but the women jerked her arms back.

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Then Nawchas uttered the prayer, made a swift cut, and immediately moved the girl over a pile of ashes to control the bleeding.

The entire ritual took less then 10 minutes.

Back home, Sheelan lay on the floor, unable to move or talk much. She clutched a bag filled with orange soda and candy and barely said anything except that she was in pain.

But she became more animated when asked whether it was worth it to have the operation so her friends and neighbors would be comfortable eating food she prepared. "I would do anything not to have this pain, even if meant they would not eat from my hands," she rasped slowly.

"I just wish that I could be the way I was before the procedure," she said.

Staff photographer Andrea Bruce and special correspondents Nian Ahmed and Dlovan Brwari contributed to this report.

 

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04:55 PM Dec 30 2008 |

sunay

sunay

Turkey

It was not possible to make a nice coppy.

Here is the linkhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/NewsSearch?sb=-1&st=circumcision& 

05:00 PM Dec 30 2008 |

CaN I CrY

CaN I CrY

Turkey

ohoo thanks for send me all news..REally thanks..

!!!

 

But i still don't believe it.. Kurdish ppl don't do it..

They are some idiot Iraqian that maybe can be a Kurdish!

But it is really 1. time i saw something about my naiton..

 

 

 

Shame of usss!!!!!!!

Shame of these idiot ppl..

Shame of humanity..

05:13 PM Dec 30 2008 |