Why you think Muhammed is Fake Prophet?

Why you think Muhammed is Fake Prophet?

If you interesting, you must ask About him

Why you Not believe him ?

If you're not convinced by the proves, let's see some of them :

I've read them. I don't think I need to go into them.

Each one of them is what one would call a 'argumentum ad populum', and not real points.

I didn't beleive in Muhammed because I was born in a Muslim family, only
It searched for the secrets of Muhammad
I read the life of Muhammad

I read how he treats people
How he loved his friends and treat them well
How he was a governor of his relationship with God
How was a lover of his wives
What was just a lover of justice
How he respected the neighbors who were hurting him

How was tolerant of all human
How was really a messenger of peace
How empty his life of any kind of injustice and terrorism
How was modest .. kiss children play with them

I wasn't a complete muslim until I keow Muhammed well

Surprised me the life of Muhammad .. Mohammed, who had hearts of millions of human

I confess my love of Muhammad
I believe the man and a messenger .. He was a sad and laugh like us
It was not angels

and I completely believe in ISALM religion ,
Which entered my heart and my mind is satisfied by it.

Whatever people said about Muhammad .. I beleive that That the great man who people try to get him off…!!
The more people despise Muhammad
More than a love in my heart….

thanx ALLAH to make me a Muslim , one of Muhammad's followers.

respects to all and regards..

Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.s.) (Salallahu ‘alayhi wa salam, meaning: May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was Allâh's  great Prophet and Messenger   like Jesus, the Son of Mary.  The Prophet's mission, however, is universal. Allah (S.W.T.)    (Subhanahu wa ta’ala, meaning: the Exalted, Most Glorious) tells mankind that Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.s.) is no more than a Messenger (Qur’an 3: 144), the unlettered Prophet who believes in Him and His Words (Qur’an 7: 158).  He is the Seal of the Prophets and the true universal Messenger of Allâh to the whole mankind (Qur’an 33: 40). Allah (S.W.T.), the All-Mighty, makes this very clear:

First of all on the subject of Muhammed and his contact with other religions, here is something I found:

Islam: Truth or Myth? start page

Muhammad learned monotheism from Christians 

Muslims today believe the myth that Muhammad introduced monotheism to the area around Mecca and Arabia in general. The truth is that Muhammad got tired of the Christians constantly preaching monotheism to him fellow Arabs, knowing in his heart, that they were correct in their criticism of Arab paganism. There can be little doubt that Christians, in their evangelism of the are around Mecca, charged the Arabs with paganism and polytheism. Christians criticized those worshipping 260 pagan gods at the Kabah and offered Christianity as a far superior monotheistic religion. In his heart, Muhammad knew the Christians were right and had a better religion of monotheism. But some Muslims today, are totally ignorant of the fact that monotheism was widely preached before, during and after the rise of Muhammad, by the Christians. It was a well known theology and the Arabs were familiar with it. Amazingly, today Muslims criticize as polytheists, the very one’s who taught Muhammad about monotheism! By the time Muhammad came along, the pagan Arabs were ripe for conversion to Monotheism because of the preaching of Christians.

• -"the religious situation of Arabia, and particularly of Mecca, as it was at the end of the sixth century, there must have been many serious-minded men who were aware of a vacuum and eager to find something to satisfy their deepest needs." (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)
• Meanwhile the seed of monotheism had been sown all along the Arabian Peninsula. ... The time was ripe for a religious revival. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
• In brief, in the sixth century after Christ, the majority of the people of Arabia were still pagans, but monotheism was spreading steadily. The time was ripe for the Arabs to abandon their superstitions in favour of a more spiritual and monotheistic conception of God. (The Life and Times of Muhammad, John Bagot Glubb, 1970)
• -Muhammad was only one of several preachers of monotheism in the Arabia of his day
. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)
• -The Meccans had numerous contacts with Christians. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
• -By the Prophet's time Christian influences were making themselves felt. (Islam in the World, Malise Ruthven, 1984, p 28-48)
• -"the influences of foreign religions such as Christianity which had won many followers in Arabia" (Studies on Islam, edited by Merlin L. Swartz, Pre-Islamic Bedouin Religion, by Joseph Henninger, 1981, p 3-22)
• -The milieu of the prophet was not one, however, of polytheistic paganism untouched by any other influences. As in South Arabia, so too in North the monotheistic faiths of Judaism and Christianity had long since become known. (The Archeology Of World Religions, Jack Finegan, 1952, p482-485, 492)
• -It seems equally certain that Allah was not merely a god in Mecca but was widely regarded as the "high god," the chief and head of the Meccan pantheon, perhaps the result, as has been argued, of a natural progression toward henotheism or of the growing influence of Jews and Christians in the peninsula." (The Hajj, F. E. Peters, p 3-41, 1994)
• -In brief, in the sixth century after Christ, the majority of the people of Arabia were still pagans, but monotheism was spreading steadily. The time was ripe for the Arabs to abandon their superstitions in favour of a more spiritual and monotheistic conception of God. (The Life and Times of Muhammad, John Bagot Glubb, 1970)
• -The old Arabian paganism was at that time in a process of disintegration, but Judaism and Christianity were widely represented in the peninsula, and to a lesser extent Zoro-astrianism and certain Gnostic sects. Several preachers of monotheism had arisen and each had gained a following, but it was Muhammad who succeeded in syncretizing certain basic elements of Judaeo-Christian faith and practice with native Arabian beliefs and, by his own burning faith in his mission and indomitable courage in carrying out that mission, initiated what has become one of the world religions of our day. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p xi-xiv)
• -The old Arabian paganism both in North and in South Arabia was polytheistic, but under the influence of the surrounding culture a strong movement toward monotheism had developed. The legends about the Hanifs are one evidence of this. Muhammad was only one of several preachers of monotheism in the Arabia of his day. (Islam: Muhammad and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958, p 85)
• -The question has been asked: How could a religion such as the ancient Arabian, which was otherwise so inadequate and under-developed, attain to so lofty a conception of God as is expressed in the belief in Allah? ... It is perhaps more probable that the pagan Arabs were influenced by … the monotheistic belief of the neighbouring Christian peoples. (Mohammed: The man and his faith, Tor Andrae, 1936, Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960, p13-30)
• —Although idolatry was the prevailing religion in early Arabia, the idea of One Supreme God was not unknown to the Arabs. Jews and Christians, of course, professed monotheism and the Sabians recognized One God, but they associated many lesser deities with Him. The Magians believed in a good god, Ormuzd, and an evil god, Ahriman. Each of these two gods was continually fighting for the possession of the world. All the Magian had to do to reconcile himself to monotheism was to believe that Ahriman was the creature of Ormuzd in revolt against Him. Certainly an easier transition than that which had to be made by the idol-worshipping Greeks and Romans in accepting Christianity. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
• -Meanwhile the seed of monotheism had been sown all along the Arabian Peninsula. Judaism had made converts in the north and south, and Byzantine influence was felt from Yemen to Syria. Christian and Jewish traders exchanged religious ideas with pagan Arabs along the caravan routes. Mecca enjoyed a rising prestige among the Arab cities, and Allah, lord of the Kaaba, was rising with it. The time was ripe for a religious revival. (Islam and the Arabs, Rom Landau, 1958 p 11-21)
• -Bedouins of the Hijaz on their caravan journeys to Syria and other Christian centers undoubtedly carried back with them a superficial knowledge of Christian beliefs and customs. Dissident Christian sects, mostly of the Monophysite confession, and numerous monks turned ascetics had their retreats in the steppes of north Arabia along caravan routes. As a caravan leader, Muhammad is supposed to have befriended a Christian monk, Babira; it is said that he even wore tunics which were the gifts of other Christian monks. Two Christianized Arab tribes, Judham and `Udhra, roamed the Hijaz. According to local tradition, there were even Christian religious artifacts in the Ka`bah at Mecca. It is not unlikely that Muhammad may have exchanged religious views with monks, even with Christians who possessed some formal knowledge of Christian theology. Jacobites and Nestorians. are known to have conducted active missionary activities among the pagan tribes of Arabia; indeed, priests and deacons were assigned to each tribe, and in Najran the Monophysites had established churches which, when persecuted by dhu-Nuwas, invited Abyssinian intervention. Monasteries astride caravan routes were open day and night to traveling caravans and roaming Bedouins. Here, besides receiving food and shelter, they undoubtedly had occasion to 'observe such practices as praying, fasting, and alms giving three of the five basic injunctions of Islam. The Nestorians had established schools and some churches in many of the towns frequented by Arab tribesmen of the Hijaz. (Islam, Beliefs And Observances, Caesar E. Farah, p2-7, 26-35)
• -When Muhammad began his summons to Islam, Christians were involved in deep theological disputes, not the least of which was over the use of icons, a dispute which culminated in the celebrated iconoclastic controversy in Christianity. Some Christians in South Arabia were accused in the Qur'an of having departed from the basic tenets of their faith. Such dissensions, coupled with the fact that the Bedouin Arabian, even in the judgment of the Qur’an, was notoriously inclined to irreligion, could not have disturbed materially the few religious convictions of the Arabs before the preachings of Muhammad. Evidence of Transformation: Be that as it may, socioeconomic trends long current in Arabian society appeared to converge in the Hijaz, and specifically at Mecca, when Muhammad emerged on the scene. The mustering of economic power through control of transit trade and the housing of pagan deities in the Ka`bah under their supervision gave the Quraysh an enviable position of influence and contributed to their rising status. Mecca had become the center of pilgrimage and the hub of economic life in West Arabia. (Islam, Beliefs And Observances, Caesar E. Farah, p2-7, 26-35)
• -The probability would seem to be that Muhammad talked about Biblical matters with people who knew more than the average inhabitant of Mecca, but what he received from them must have been limited in scope in view of the paucity of his knowledge of Judaism and Christianity. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
• -The references in the Qur'an to the Old Testament prophets and patriarchs are cast in a form which suggests that at least some of the hearers already had an idea of the outline of the stories, and that what the Qur'an was doing was to point the lessons to be learnt from these stories; for example, they show how God defends his prophets from their opponents. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
• -For the study of the life of Muhammad it is hardly necessary to decide the relative importance of Jewish and Christian influences, especially since many details are disputed. The main necessity is to realize that such things were 'in the air' before the Qur'an came to Muhammad and were part of the preparation of himself and of his environment for his mission. (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)
• -The Meccans had numerous contacts with Christians. Their trading caravans took them to the Christian cities of Damascus and Gaza in the Byzantine empire, as well as to Christian Abyssinia and the partly-Christian Yemen. A few Christians also resided in Mecca itself, at least temporarily. There were hardly any Jews in Mecca, but the Jews were numerous in Medina, where Meccan caravans to the north some-times made a stop. Such contacts could, of course, lead to no more than an external knowledge of these religions, and it is probable that few Meccans engaged in religious discussions. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
• -The Arabic word for 'God', Allah, is a contraction of al-ilah, which like the Greek ho theos simply means 'the god' but was commonly understood as 'the supreme god' or 'God'. It is possible that before the time of Muhammad the Meccan pagans used to indicate the principal deity of the Ka'bah, in the same way in which the deity worshipped at at-Ta'if was known simply as al-Lat, the goddess. If the word Allah was also used for God as acknowledged by Jews and Christians, the opportunities for confusion would be great. The probability therefore is that while some Meccans acknowledged God, they did not see that their old polytheistic beliefs were incompatible with belief in God and reject them. These premonitions of monotheism among the Arabs must have been due mainly to Christian and Jewish influences. The Arabs had many opportunities of contact with Christians and Jews. The Byzantine empire, whose power and higher civilization they greatly admired, was Christian, and so was Abyssinia. Even in the Persian empire Christianity was strong, and al-Hirah, the Persian vassal-state with which the Arabs were much in contact, was an outpost of the East Syrian or Nestorian Church. This combination of monotheism with military and political strength and a higher level of material civilization must have impressed the Arabs greatly. (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)
• -The nomadic tribes and settled communities in closest contact with these states were indeed being gradually Christianized; and even some of the Meccan merchants were not uninfluenced by what they saw when they traveled to the border market-towns on business. There were also Christians in Mecca … The opportunities for contact with Jews were not so extensive as those with Christians … There were apparently practically no Jews in Mecca. ... The possibility of influence from monotheistic groups other than Jews and Christians cannot be entirely excluded, but at most it must have been slight. (Muhammad at Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, 1953, p 23-29)
• -Though the religion of South Arabia was polytheistic, the monotheistic communities of Jews and Christians in the Hejaz gained in influence. (Britannica, Arabian Religions, p1057, 1979)
• -Pre-Islamic deities. Pre-Islamic Arabian religion is commonly understood to be polytheistic. (Britannica, Arabian Religions, p1057, 1979)
• -The hanif. It may well have been the presence of Christians and Jews that set the stage in the Hejaz for the so-called hanifs, men who found the old cult of the gods inadequate to their level of spirituality and monotheistic ideals, and who repudiated what they could not associate with Ilah. (Britannica, Arabian Religions, p1059, 1979)
• -Pre-Islamic Arabian monotheism. Yet on one topic, namely monotheism, the views of many scholars show a marked interest in developmental change. This topic arises in two contexts: the possibility of an original monotheism anterior to Arabian polytheism, and the possibility of a monotheism as a late development out of Arabian polytheism. Arguments for an original monotheism are based largely on the ubiquity of the word il, ilah, for "god" in Semitic languages. Each tribe started with its own single god, it has been argued, and a polytheistic pantheon was derived from a situation where tribes, failing to identify others' deities with their own, expanded the list. Whatever the speculative possibilities of such a theory, the Arabian situation was polytheistic at the time of the first surviving records of it. More fascinating and more tangible are the indications that in the last few pre-Islamic centuries an Arabian monotheism developed. There were, of course, monotheistic influences from outside Arabia. Christian missionaries… (Britannica, Arabian Religions, p1059, 1979)
• —The influence of Christianity was brought to bear upon Arabia both from Syria in the northwest and from Mesopotamia in the northeast. In the sixth century A.D. the Arabic kingdoms of the Ghassanids in Syria and the Lakhmids in Mesopotamia were allied respectively with the Byzantine and the Persian empires and were strong centers respectively of Monophysite and of Nestorian Christianity. From these regions and in this time if not also earlier, Christian ideas spread on into the farther reaches of Arabia. A careful study of the relevant data particularly in the Qur'an shows that Muhammad had a very considerable store of knowledge of Judaism and Christianity, and that it was of the sort which he would have been most likely to obtain through oral channels and personal observation over a long period of time. He was specially impressed, it seems, with the fact that both the Jews and the Christians were People of a Book, and it was his desire likewise to provide his own people with a Book which would be to them what the Torah was to the Jews and the Bible to the Christians. (The Archeology Of World Religions, Jack Finegan, 1952, p482-485, 492)

As I said before, prophet mohamed left two time, the first when he was kid, and the secound for trade,and in both of cases he travelled with some poeple, not alone, and they could notice something is it would.

He made these contacts with other religions during these travels, also by talking with other people that knew these religions. The explanations are endless.

And merchants that came into Mecca after making these contacts.

in Mecca, there were no jews and christians, and when he travelled, he waas not alone, and it's sure he didn't mixed with others.

That isn't sure at all. It's completely unlikely that Mohammed never met with or talked or debated or learned from a single Jew or Christian as a merchant.

Maybe he wasn't alone on his travels, so what? Whether other people were with him or not doesn't change what he did on his travels.

and some of those prophets were proved, and found thier traces.

According to sources, Mohammed wasn't the only person trying to teach people monotheism in Arabia.

Maybe these people did exist, who knows. Simple word of mouth lets people know about them, not divine inspiration.

the existance of muslims everywhere is a proof, and in few years, islam reached from europe to china, and here I don't see the place and time.

It doesn't prove anything anymore than the existence of Christians and the spread of Christianity proves that its the true religion.

The great Jewish thinker Maimonides said that both religions growing may be divinely allowed, in a plan to make all of the world believe in Gd, but this doesn't imply that one religion overrules the previous ones, or indeed that what you practice is unique and the sole truth.

well, the history of arabs before Islam is well know, and it's written.

The histories concerning Mohammed are not neutral and everybody knows that. The people that chronicled Mohammed and Islam closely were Muslims and either way, outside accounts that were critical of Mohammed are either discredited by you or just simply didn't survive the passage of history.

and the only prophet that all his history is well known, it's only history of Prophet mohamed, and others prophets don't have a full witten history.

It's much easier to have a larger collection of history from 1400 years ago then 2000 years ago and over.

Aside from this, there are clear records of the prophets in the massive Jewish Bible known as the Tanakh, of which the Torah is apart.

The Talmud similarly keeps the Oral history known.

and it's proved what we didn't change it.

Sorry? If the Quran and Islam itself are just bunch of changing ideas and evolving matter over the 30 years of Mohammed's revelations, how can you even make such a silly claim that 'it hasn't been changed'?

It is itself something that was different at the beginning then kept changing as Mohammed commanded. Muslims in the beginning could drink alcohol, then later they couldn't.

More surahs were added as time went by.

None of these are elements of a consistent, non-changeing religion.

actually, I don't see the facts that you're talking about.

Just re-read what I wrote. Historical, non-Jewish accounts speak of the Temple's existance and its location. Archaelogists agree that the Temple existed and that it was located within Jerusalem.

The only people that deny this are Arabs with political designs and agendas who don't shy away from denying obvious history for poltical reasons.

really funny, they didn't find anything, and one crlaim that is was in the east and another in the west !! really funny

I'm sick of playing this game.

The Temple was destroyed. It isn't there anymore. The only thing that would remain are traces of ruins.

Whether it is under the Al Aqsa mosque is disputed. Personally I think its true. Most people believe so.

It is the Temple Mount and this was why the Muslims decided to build their mosque there.

and it was known that when muslims reached this place, there were no building in this place, and they build al-Aqsa from an impty soil and land.

How is this relevant when the Temple was destroyed by the Romans 600 years earlier?

I meant bring here the Quote in Torah that talk about that !!

The discussion on this is from the Talmud and from the writings of Maimonides:

It is only in the Torah that we find divinely inspired authority binding for all times. With the completion of the Torah, such authority ceased, and no new law or commandments can be introduced prophetically. It is thus written 'THESE are the commandments that Gd commanded Moses or the children of Israel on Mount Sinai (Leviticus 27:34). The revelation at Sinai had the power to impose commandments, but no other revelation can.

Continuing, Gd has promised that He will never send a prophet to add, subtract, or change. He will also never grant a prophetic vision to interpret a law differently than set forth in the tradition, or to render a decision in Torah Law. Therefore, any prophet who claims to do any of these things must be assumed to be a false prophet, and is judged accordingly (derived from Sanhedrin 90a and the Tosefta regarding it).

The Torah says (Deuteronomy 13:1), "All this word that I command you, you shall keep and do. You shall not add to it, nor subtract from it."

Warnings from other prophets against such are mentioned in the Tanakh. ''He will speak words against the Most High, and he will wear down the saints of the Most high, attempting to change the seasons and the Law'' (Daniel 7:25)

those were in the past, I'm asking about the future, if you expact new prophets, and consider that is possible ?

Yes, of course. Prophethood is an important part of Judaism.

don't see how the muslims are in American movies, they make them always as terrorists, so how do you expact people to see them.

It's my observation that American movies nowadays often try to show non-Arab terrorists out of fear of stereoptyping them.

the American people are from the most people who don't know the true for what is going on in the world, as when Bush wanted to attack Afgabistane, but he didn't know where is it situated!!

As badly informed as I'll admit that many Americans are about the world, I think that people in the Middle East are badly informed about things as well.

Yes, they live in the region, and yes they see first hand the destruction of Iraq, but their media makes them equally ignorant about America and Israel.

there were no civilization satyed for ever, and the same in the future, just read what the historians and researchers say about that.

Which civilization has lasted longer so far in its position as world leader, Islamic or Western?

you who want to understand it in this way, and you try to find other meaning of it, just to say that is wrong and not in the original meaning.

People like you that cling to the belief that the Koran is divine will eagerly take anything out of context and reinterpret it to mean something that wasn't the original intention, then go off on a tangent with it.

Discovery of The universal Dokhan (smoke)

The article goes off on a tangent about the word for 'smoke' and reinterprets its meaning to mean space dust. Sorry, but Mohammed was not thinking of space dust when he was thinking up the Koran. The word means smoke, and meant smoke from the context. People that cling to the idea that its all the world of gd will keep reinterpreting and reinterpreting till they come up with a 'miracle'.

I don't really buy into this nonsense.

Do you think that we're crazy !!!!!!!!!!!!!! or witches !!!!!!!!!!

No, I just think you're deluded.

The last part makes the same mistake of going off on its personal tangent.

Where are these exact '7 heavens'?  Why are there only seven when if we're describing space? No scientist identifies the number seven to the countless expanses of cosmos.

If the Koran was trying to describe the sky and space, it could have done so in a more precise manner. Instead it fails miserably with vague ideas based on Arab mythology.

 really, when you can know that the deep of ocean is dark !! are you sure ?

Yes, I think I can. Anyone who has ever been in a boat can conclude that the bottom is not visible.

OK FABS, THIS STORY MAY MAKE U CHANGE UR MIND, JUST FOR U,..........
Abdullah ibn Salam
Biography =========
Abdullah ibn Salam was a Jewish rabbi in Yathrib who was widely respected and honoured by the people of the city even by those who were not Jewish. For a fixed period each day, he would worship, teach and preach in the temple. Thereafter he would devote himself to the study of the Torah. In this study he became particularly struck by some verses of the Torah which dealt with the coming of a Prophet who would complete the message of previous Prophets. Al-Husayn therefore took an immediate and keen interest when he heard reports of the appearance of a Prophet in Mecca. He said:
“When I heard of the appearance of the Messenger of God I began to make enquiries about his name, his genealogy, his characteristics, his time and place and I began to compare this information with what is contained in our books. From these enquiries, I became convinced about the authenticity of his prophethood and I affirmed the truth of his mission. However, I concealed my conclusions from the Jews.”

Dialogue With the Yathribians ===============================
In 622, Muhammad left Mecca for Yathrib. When he reached Yathrib and stopped at Quba, a man came rushing into the city, calling out to people and announcing the arrival of Muhammed. At that moment, I was at the top of a palm tree doing some work. My aunt, Khalidah bint al-Harith, was sitting under the tree. On hearing the news, I shouted:
‘Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!’ When my aunt heard my takbir, she remonstrated with me: ‘May God frustrate you…By God, if you had heard that Moses was coming you would not have been more enthusiastic.’
‘Auntie, he is really, by God, the brother of Moses and follows his religion. He was sent with the same mission as Moses.’ She was silent for a while and then said: ‘Is he the Prophet about whom you spoke to us who would be sent to confirm the truth preached by previous (Prophets) and complete the message of his Lord?’ ‘Yes,’ I replied.
Without any delay or hesitation, I went out to meet the Prophet. I saw crowds of people at his door. I moved about in the crowds until I reached close to him. The first words I heard him say were:
‘O people! Spread peace…Share food…Pray during the night while people sleep… and you will enter Paradise in peace…’
I looked at him closely. I scrutinized him and was convinced that his face was not that of an imposter. I went closer to him and made the declaration of faith that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.
The Prophet turned to me and asked: ‘What is your name?’ ‘Al-Husayn ibn Sailam,’ I replied.
‘Instead, it is (now) Abdullah ibn Sallam,’ he said (giving me a new name). ‘Yes,’ I agreed. ‘Abdullah ibn Sailam (it shall be). By Him who has sent you with the Truth, I do not wish to have another name after this day.’
I returned home and introduced Islam to my wife, my children and the rest of my household. They all accepted Islam including my aunt KhaIidah who was then an old lady. However, I advised them then to conceal our acceptance of Islam from the Jews until I gave them permission. They agreed.
Subsequently, I went back to Muhammed and said: ‘O Messenger of God! The Jews are a people (inclined to) slander and falsehood. I want you to invite their most prominent men to meet you. (During the meeting however), you should keep me concealed from them in one of your rooms. Ask them then about my status among them before they find out of my acceptance of Islam. Then invite them to Islam. If they were to know that I have become a Muslim, they would denounce me and accuse me of everything base and slander me.’
Muhammed kept him in one of his rooms and invited the prominent Jewish personalities to visit him. He introduced Islam to them and urged them to have faith in God…They began to dispute and argue with him about the Truth. When he realized that they were not inclined to accept Islam, he put the question to them:
‘What is the status of Al-Husayn ibn Sailam among you?’
‘He is our sayyid (leader) and the son of our sayyid. He is our rabbi and our alim (scholar), the son of our rabbi and alim.’
‘If you come to know that he has accepted Islam, would you accept Islam also?’ asked Muhammed.
‘God forbid! He would not accept Islam. May God protect him from accepting Islam,’ they said (horrified).
At this point I came out in full view of them and announced:
‘O assembly of Jews! Be conscious of God and accept what Muhammad has brought. By God, you certainly know that he is the Messenger of God and you can find prophecies about him and mention of his name and characteristics in your Torah. I for my part declare that he is the Messenger of God. I have faith in him and believe that he is true. I know him.’
‘You are a liar,’ they shouted. ‘By God, you are evil and ignorant, the son of an evil and ignorant person.’ And they continued to heap every conceivable abuse on me…”
The following Qur’anic verse were revealed for Abdullah:
“And a witness from the Children of Israel testified to this (Quran being from God) like (the Torah). So he believed while (most of) you (Jews) are too proud (to believe).” (46:10)

they failed to explain the power of this religion, and how could it reach all this succuss over the world.

I'm guessing that your answer to this is that the spread of Islam is proof of its divinity.

My answer is that in history several other religions have spread that aren't divine.

I would be lying if I said that I don't believe that the spread of Islam is a positive thing in the long run. Monotheism spread and it happened perhaps because Gd let it happen.

Really funny, how can a man, bring a religion like islam, and create a holy book, and make a system, which the world still learn from it, full of rules of life and treating and worshiping, a prefect system i all the side !!

Just like other people of those times wrote fantastic works of art or philosophy.

I reckon that M. had help form his initial followers and later entourage.

I don't need to repeat that a lot of this 'system' is similar to Jewish practices.

who claim that, when they failed to explain the source of quran, which it's impossible to be brought from a man.

People with knowledge of the other religions can easily find the traces for the ideas in the Koran.

'He who has killed one innocent person, is as if he killed all of mankind'

Where does this come from do you think?

It's more farfetched for people like you to blindly think that Mohammed, a travelling merchant, never in his entire carreer met or learned from Christians and Jews in a region that was full of them. Whether he did so in Mecca or in other parts of Arabia is also irrelevant.

To most people, this is an open and shut case.

you build your ideas over doubts and Speculations, which you can't prove.

The simularities of the subject matter are not speculation. The geography is not speculation.

I think saying that these are all coincidences is more of a speculation.

we give the name of those prophets, and we give their stories, and what happened to them, how could a man bring those stories !! how did he know them if they were destroyed !!

Because people met them, heard about them, told stories about them.

Maybe they simply weren't divinely destroyed but met an unlucky end. The stories that evolved over time, till people decided that they had done something to offend gd.

really, what do you say when you see a christian priests became muslims, and defend on islam, and ask people to it.

what do you say when you see a RABBI became muslim, and defend on it.

I say that rabbis and priests are humans like any other, who have their reasons for doing what they did.

Most clergy do not follow in their footsteps.

It's the same logic of atheists who call religion a fraud because a priest turned out to be a pedophile.

when we see for who is the best, sure muslims, because we ask people to believe in one one, and we bring more poeple to that, more than Christians, and sure, you don't do anything for that, you just stay closed onyourself, and refuse the others.

Having more doesn't mean anything, what matters is what is true. 

As I firmly believe that Christianity and Islam are both offshoots of Jewish ideas, I disagree. Jews have taught the world about gd, and set in motion the process for salvation and belief.

Yes, now it may not seem that way, but back in the ancient days, Jews were openly going out to the nations and either converting them, or teaching them about gd.

Need Ι mention again, that the Beit ha Mikdash was a place for all nations to come and gather and pray, not just the Jews.

Deny just to deny is not a solution, if you don't recognize and trust anything from our history, actually nobody can change your mind, the problem is in yourself.

Anymore than just blindly accepting things.

You should consider things why there are more non-Muslims than Muslims:

-Either the case for Mohammed's prophecy is not well made

-there isn't a full case to be made at all because he wasn't one.

I believe the second.

what happened to you man, have you changed your mind, I heard from you one time that you don't think that Quran had changed, and today you say another thing !

There are two periods that one can refer to in this subject:

The period of the Koran's conception and it not having changed apparently.

AND the entire period afterwards from now to present day, where you also claim it hasn't been changed.

As far as I know, there is not a copy of the Koran that goes all the way back to Mohammed's time. 

There isn't a 'Mohammed's Koran' lying behind glass in some museum.

Furthermore, concerning the conception, the Koran was 'revealed' during a period of 30 years, where it likely, or at least most people think so, went through transformations, rewriting, reformulation.

in the beginning, the alcohol was not forbidden, untill allah ordered muslims to stop drikking it, but Prophet mohamed drink it ? that is silly

I didn't say that he drank alcohol. I said the rest of what you said.

Gd doesn't change his mind.

and some jews think that it was built in Nabless, and the other think it's someone in jerusalem, and they don't know exacly, only you, who want to hear the voice that you want to hear.

WHO? It's not enough to say 'some Jews' believe this.

The Jewish view, backed up by everything else is that the Temple was in historical Jerusalem.  

First the Torah was given before the Timple that you claim !!

Yes, you're right.

The accounts of the Temple and of Solomon, Saul and David are from the Tanakh, the Hebrew Bible, not the Torah.

there is no trace or ruins man, all reseaschers said that.

The proof of where the Temple was is not supposed to come from finding the actual Temple, but through other finds.  The Temple is gone, and that is clear.

The discovery of the mikvot around the Temple area is to me proof that the Temple was somewhere within Jerusalem.

To wrap it up, most experts believe that the Jewish Temple was on the present day area where the mosques are.

If this is proven wrong, good. That means that rebuilding the Temple wouldn't cause any disruptions to other people.

I'll add a clever bit of information to you: the area where the Temple was is forbidden for Jews to enter until the time is right, as only ritually pure people can enter it. So it being on the Temple Mount, Jews aren't allowed to go there anyway, religiously, yet.

aven after 600 years, if it was there, where would be traces and ruins there, but there were nothing in this land, where Al-aqsa was built. it was empty land.

Well there is the trace: the Kotel, the Wailing Wall. The last part remaining of the outer wall.

by the way, you said one time that Obadiah was a convert , how that, and you said that prophets come from only Israelites.

Converts are as much Israelites or Jews as anyone that was born Jewish.

I suppose that his purpose in life was to become Jewish and then he was given the divine gift of prophecy.

What he received is written in the book of Obadiah.

the wester civilization started in abour 1500s or 1600s up today, not more than 500 years.

Western civilization goes back much further than that. It's first of all based on Rome, Greece, the Judeo-Christian religion. We're looking back at least 1000 years before the 1500s or 1600s and it's still going strong.

1.57 billions are deduded, and our cousins 14 millions are right !! eumm

Isn't the father often right as opposed to the children? More specifically, it's well possible to imagine that first people had it right, then the others distorted it with their own ideas.

Either way I don't think it matters. Jews don't want the world to convert to Judaism.

It's more important that everyone live properly and righteously according to Gd's law, then 'who is right'.

the meaning is not from over sea, but in the Bottom of the ocean, when you go down to the bottom, you can't see your hands or things around you.

Not necessarily. The context can mean both.

“Fake or not, it’s totally irrelevant to 99% of our people.”
ur ppl is not the criteria or the standard for knwoing the truth!!!!
most of ur ppl worship stones as gods and then put them in their drawers!!!